Vogue Williams and Spencer Matthews have revealed how they deal with the public’s interest in their relationship, admitting they “try not to get involved in the bulls**t”.
The fan favourite couple have been married since 2018, and share three children together – Theodore, five, Gigi, three, and one-year-old Otto.
Hosting a podcast together, titled Spencer & Vogue, the pair are known for being very open about their relationship online, which can have its downsides.
During a new interview with the Sunday Independent, Vogue and Spencer were asked what it’s like to have a partner who’s in the public eye, and the “online mauling” that can go with that.
Vogue said: “I think we’re very good at minding each other. But I also think outside of the industry we work in, we’re navigating life as a family – we’ve got three young kids and that’s what ultimately is more important than anything to us.
“We’ve really learned to just let things wash over us, because there’s some things that you can’t control. We try not to get involved in the bullshit as well.
“Once we know that everything is cool between us, everything is good with our family and our kids, that’s all that really matters.”
Spencer said as they’ve gotten older, they’ve learned to focus on the things that really matter.
“You can become a little bit more selective with the work that you do, and you can choose to spend your time in different ways,” he explained.
“And as long as your children, as an example, are loved and cared for in the way that you need them to be or they deserve to be, then you’re doing a very good job, in my opinion.”
The couple are known for poking fun at one another on their podcast, which they’re bringing to Dublin this week on their live tour.
Vogue said: “I think we know each other well enough to wind each other up as quickly as we want, but we’re careful not to do that.”
“I suppose we only do it in jest. When we’re slagging each other, we don’t take arguments or anything home from the pod. And we enjoy taking the piss out of each other, and we do that quite well, I think.”
When they do argue, the pair confessed they both approach disagreements in different ways.
“I don’t think we’re shouters. I’m not a shouter in general,” Vogue said. “I’ve had shouting arguments with my sister. Don’t get me wrong, we’ve had the odd shouting argument. But I think, again, as you get older, shouting arguments are less common.”
“I would find that very stressful to have a shouting argument with any of my friends or Spenny. I think I’m more of an ignorer. So I will happily ignore until the cows come home. Spenny is more of a wants-to-sort-it-out.”
Spencer joked, “Vogue is what they call hyper stubborn and fails to admit any kind of wrongdoing ever,” before she interjected, “I would if there was any wrongdoing.”
“I do feel quite lucky with us,” he continued. “Because when you don’t really know how to navigate someone and you don’t really know how their mind works, it’s quite complicated sometimes to argue with that person.
“By the way, I believe that all arguing is basically a waste of time and misspent energy. I think through good communication, you can avoid all arguments with anyone. Particularly the person that you love.”
“Arguments in our case typically stem from a lack of communication. Right? Holding something in, letting it bubble up. And all of a sudden what seems a small problem to one of you is a massive problem to the other because it’s been brewing for days instead of minutes.
“So that’s probably our main problem, that if there is some discomfort in the relationship, we’re not great at just sitting down and tackling it.”
Spencer has been very candid about his issues with alcohol in the past, and has admitted he almost lost Vogue before he decided to change his lifestyle.
Looking back at that period of time, Vogue confessed: “I think that time was definitely difficult. I’d say I’m surrounded quite a lot by heavy drinkers. I always have been.”
“My dad was quite a heavy drinker. And I just knew that Spencer wasn’t being the best version of himself. It wasn’t actually that difficult to navigate.
“I think there were definitely arguments around that time. It was quite frustrating. He had to figure it out for himself – you can’t tell somebody else they need to drink less.
“And then once he did drink less, I think he realised his potential and was like, ‘Jesus, how much time was wasted doing nothing?’ I think that it was just part of his growing up. And I think we navigated that part of our relationship quite well.”
When asked how they balance living and working together, Vogue said it’s important to have their own separate lives.
“I think that’s something I’ve learned from previous relationships,” she explained. “I think it’s really important to keep your own friendships and Spenny and I, we spend a good bit of time together because we work together.
“Obviously, we live together. But we do have very separate lives in our work lives as well.”
